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- What the Bible Really Says
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People who are against Same Sex
marriage usually say the same thing. They say that
it is "against god, and that it's in the bible."
When you ask them to tell you EXACTLY where it says
that, 90% of them can't tell you
and the other 10% will say "it's there,
I know it is." Yeah, a great
argument to take someone's right away. A "feeling."
Below are the Biblical arguments used to justify bigotry
and the reasons they are lies, half
truths, and outright fabrications.
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Bible verse:
1 Corinthians
6:9-10 - "Do you
not know that the wicked will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither
the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor
slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom
of God." |
Truth:
On its face, it looks like case closed. There
it is in Black and white. But the truth is that
the translation of this verse has been debated
on many levels. The term "arsenokoite"
has been translated as "male prostitute,"
or refers to any premarital or extramarital
sex. Yet the very next verse, 1
Corinthians
6:11, says that: And that is what some
of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified,
you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus
Christ and by the Spirit of our God." So
I guess if you are a "Christian
Homosexual" you CAN
get into the Kingdom of god. Case not so closed
is it! |
Bible verse: Genesis
18 and 19. This is the verse that the
Religious Right uses to make their case against
Homosexuals. This passage essentially states
that God had decided to kill all of the citizens
of Sodom, the "Sodomites", for their
immoral, HOMOSEXUAL, lives. That means all men,
women, children, infants, and newborns, were
to be killed because of this. |
Truth:
This passage is
ambiguous and is open to interpretation. If
you break down the word "Sodomite",
you will find that "ite" means: "native",
"resident", or "descendant",
of a place. So "Sodomite" means the
native or resident of the city of Sodom. Only
later was Sodomite made a term, both social
and legal, to mean homosexual.
God's plan was to kill everyone in the city
including all men, women, children, infants,
and newborns. What would be the justification
for killing the infants and children? Surely
they weren't indulging in this "lifestyle."
And didn't God "just create" these
infants and newborns? Why would he kill them?
Lot, the person who the angels came to warn
of God's displeasure, offered his daughters
to the mob to be raped for the safe passage
of the angels. If all of the people in the city
were "homosexuals", why would that
offer have been made? Gay men want from women
the same thing that Gay women want from them
... NOTHING!
The word "knowing" also has many meanings.
Some say it means "to have sex with by
force, meaning rape." Some say it simple
means that the "Sodomites" were going
to kill the angels.
Lastly, many people say that the stories in
the bible are there for "moral purposes",
meaning they are there to act as examples of
how we should live. It that vein, the story
of Sodom and Gomorrah is one of "Hospitality."
That we are to treat strangers invited into
our house BETTER than our own family. |
| Bible verse: Leviticus
18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as
with womankind: it is abomination." |
Truth:
This passage states that
"MEN"
shouldn't lie with other men. It
doesn't say that a
WOMAN can't lie with another WOMAN.
So you can leave LESBIANS
the hell alone!
In the attempts to include Lesbians, the Religious
Right tries to "imply"
what God meant. But by seeking to "imply"
they are taking the figurative
and trying to make it literal.
If the bible "speaks
for itself" you can't pick and choose
which parts of the bible to re-interpret. It's
either all or nothing!
Leviticus 18:6-21
talks about sins, incest, cleanliness, and idolatry.
Many of the issues raised here pertain to Pagan
rituals and actions. So if we were to interpret
those issues in that context, we could say that
God was talking about those things that happen
while Pagans were "worshipping a false
idol" and not what happens in a RELATIONSHIP
between two people whether gay or straight. |
Bible verse: Leviticus
20:13 - "If a man lies with a man
as one lies with a woman, both of them have
done what is detestable. They must be put to
death; their blood will be on their own heads." |
Truth:
Again, there is no mention
of WOMEN in this
passage, so I guess Lesbians get a pass here.
And this passage taken in the context in which
it was written, means that this was meant for
those people worshipping a false idol during
their Pagan rituals. |
Bible verse: Romans
1:26-27 - "Because of this, God
gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their
women exchanged natural relations for unnatural
ones. In the same way the men also abandoned
natural relations with women and were inflamed
with lust for one another. Men committed indecent
acts with other men, and received in themselves
the due penalty for their perversion."
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Truth:
This is the ONLY bible
verse that speaks about Women on Women sex and
Same Sex sexual relationships. It has also been
used to justify their reasoning that homosexuality
is wrong. Again, this verse is taken out of
context.
Paul was talking about the citizens of Rome
who by all accounts had turned it into a place
where "everything goes." The Greeks
were doing "unnatural things" in the
place of worship and that is what Paul was talking
about. The passage speaks about Pagan beliefs,
words, and actions. That is the context of this
passage related to Paul and Romans 1:26-27.
Paul talks about HETEROSEXUALS doing what is
"unnatural to them." But it doesn't
say anything about true HOMOSEXUALS being made
to do what is "unnatural to them"
meaning, being HETEROSEXUALS. There is no mention
of SAME SEX COUPLES in Romans at all. Again,
this passage was talking about a group of Christians
who left the church and took up Paganism.
Lastly, the part of the passage that the Religious
Right seems to forget is that Paul also warns
Christians about "judging others."
I know you have SELECTIVE AMNESIA about that
part of the verse! |
Bible verse: Genesis
29 and 30. The story of Jacob and his
MANY WIVES! This bible passage speaks of how
Jacob came to have 2 wives (and 2 slave "wives")
and their 13 children. This "version"
of marriage is rarely spoken in the pulpit. |
Truth:
The bible speaks of at
least 8 different "marriage"
types including: monogany, poligamy, a man,
his wife, and his concubines; a soldier and
his female prisoner, a brother and his sister-in-law,
a RAPIST and his VICTIM, a man and his female
slave, a man and his female property. These
"marriages" are all listed in the
bible. So when people claim they are just following
the "bible's version of marriage,"
we need to ask them, "Which version are
you talking about!" |
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